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This topic, perhaps, should be broken into two, but for the sake of brevity I thought they could be combined. What is the role of the theologian in the Church? Are they the ones that 'develop doctrine'? It's OK as a Catholic to believe that doctrines develop over time, right? :?:

Another couple of questions on this same subject: Is Scholasticism a philosophical tool that theologians use to explicate (develop) doctrine? What happened before the Angelic Doctor gave us Scholasticism: I mean what philosophy guided the theologians? What is Augustinianism vs. Scholasticism?

Sorry for so many questions, but those horrible modernists posing as theologians are giving truly wise and holy theologians a bad name, and I was wondering if someone could set the record straight.

Thanks so much.

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Teresa Ginardi wrote:
What is the role of the theologian in the Church? Are they the ones that 'develop doctrine'? It's OK as a Catholic to believe that doctrines develop over time, right? :?:


Yes, in the correct sense. Did you read this article, posted by Geoff Tribbe? http://www.catholicculture.org/docs/doc ... 2&longdesc

Also, you might ponder the Eleventh Rule for thinking with the Church, of St. Ignatius Loyola.

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To praise positive and scholastic learning. Because, as it is more proper to the Positive Doctors, as St. Jerome, St. Augustine and St. Gregory, etc., to move the heart to love and serve God our Lord in everything; so it is more proper to the Scholastics, as St. Thomas, St. Bonaventure, and to the Master of the Sentences, etc., to define or explain for our times the things necessary for eternal salvation; and to combat and explain better all errors and all fallacies. For the Scholastic Doctors, as they are more modern, not only help themselves with the true understanding of the Sacred Scripture and of the Positive and holy Doctors, but also, they being enlightened and clarified by the Divine virtue, help themselves by the Councils, Canons and Constitutions of our holy Mother the Church.


Teresa Ginardi wrote:
Another couple of questions on this same subject: Is Scholasticism a philosophical tool that theologians use to explicate (develop) doctrine?


No, it is a theological and philosphical method. The method of the schools. But yes, it is how doctrine is better explained over time, and this is what we mean when we say "develop."

Teresa Ginardi wrote:
What happened before the Angelic Doctor gave us Scholasticism: I mean what philosophy guided the theologians? What is Augustinianism vs. Scholasticism?


Well, prior to the recovery of the texts of Aristotle, which were not available to St. Augustine, he employed those of Aristotle's teacher, Plato. Thus, he missed out on the benefit of Aristotle's many useful additions to Plato's doctrine, and also his many corrections of Plato's errors. St. Thomas was able to benefit from Aristotle because the Arabs had obtained copies and they entered Europe via the Moors in Spain.

Understood correctly, it is thus a mistake to oppose, as many moderns do, "Platonism in St. Augustine" to "Aristotelianism in St. Thomas." The two were not opposed, but rather part of the same tradition. There is a wonderful sign of St. Thomas's magnanimity and charity in the way that he deals with the points in St. Augustine which need correction. He rarely if ever says, "in this the holy Doctor erred," but rather he shows how the holy Doctor's thought actually implies the Thomistic-Aristotelian doctrine, when understood according to the additional light of Aristotle's work. In a sense it's as though others can only see St. Augustine's books from across the room under candle light, whereas St. Thomas sat in front of them with sunlight streaming in from the window.

Now, the difference in the approach of the Scholastics and the Positive Doctors is simply that the Scholastics treated theology as a systematic science, in the same way that (for example) biology classifies its knowledge or chemistry lays out its own proper objects in order - the table of elements etc. The Positive Doctors did not do this, but contented themselves with recording and preserving the unwritten Tradition of the Church and commenting upon it and upon Holy Writ, not according to a systematic method.

Teresa Ginardi wrote:
Sorry for so many questions, but those horrible modernists posing as theologians are giving truly wise and holy theologians a bad name, and I was wondering if someone could set the record straight.


Absolutely, and thank you for raising this. The behaviour of the post-V2 theologians is an absolute scandal for which they will burn in hell; but the further tragedy is the effect that their scandal has had on the Church (i.e. the scandal taken by the faithful), leaving most men without the benefit of a proper and holy reverence for these exquisite men who dedicated their lives to prayer and reflection on the great truths of the Faith. It is impossible to spend any time reading sound theology without falling in love with the men who wrote it. Their love for Our Lord Jesus Christ and for His Church illuminates their pages and makes the Faith appear with the beauty and order and profound luminosity which it really has, but which in our ignorance and poverty we do not necessarily perceive.

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New post Re: The role of the theologian and development of doctrine
John Lane wrote:
Yes, in the correct sense. Did you read this article, posted by Geoff Tribbe? http://www.catholicculture.org/docs/doc ... 2&longdesc


Thank you John for the link, which I've printed, and teaching us about St. Augustine and St. Thomas. Isn't the Church WONDERFUL! :!:

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